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PatrickDarwinPoyfair
06-01-2004, 08:12 PM
Klingons in the first series look pretty human, except for the handlebar mustaches.

Klingons in the first round of Star Trek movies look like Worf.

How does the Star Trek community make sense of that?

When I rode the Star Trek Experience ride in Vegas I asked the dude dressed up like a Klingon. He feigned ignorance.

Damn dirty Klingons.

Hobbes
06-01-2004, 08:41 PM
My roomate was a big Trekkie (TNG, I'm a huge TOS fan but I don't touch the other stuff) and as I recall he said there was some episode about one of the klingongs (I believe it was in DS9) making an oblique refrence to a mutation or something. Not real facts but I think there's something there.

The big problem is not that but the fact that when they made The Enterprise the Klingons didn't look like TOS Klingons but like the TNG/DS9/eveything else Klingons.

Hobbes :)

PatrickDarwinPoyfair
06-01-2004, 09:31 PM
One geek's response.... (http://www.bravofleet.info/factfiles/Klingon_Forehead.htm)

SoberTillNoon
06-01-2004, 09:36 PM
In DS9, there was an episode where they went back in time. Work, Cisco, Dax, Bashir(sp?), Miles, and I think one other, were basically in the tribble episode of the original series. In the episode Bashir asked Worf what the hell happened? And worf's simple responce was this: "We don't like to discuss it with outsiders." or something to that effect.

pajeba
06-01-2004, 10:35 PM
This cartoonist knows... (http://cartoons.sev.com.au/archivepage.php?cartoonid=s5)

Madame Marie Sklodowska Curie
06-02-2004, 01:49 AM
I never post here, but for this I will.

Answers to this question used by various of the novels:

1) The "old" (no-ridge) Klingons are Klingon/human hybrids ("fusions"). Fusions have a very low place in Klingon society, and the best/only way to rise above those origins is by earning glory in battle. Thus, a disproportionate number spend more than the minimum number of years in the Klingon armed services. And since they are so low on the totem, no one else wants to serve with them -- so you end up with a large percentage of Klingon ships manned (?) entirely by fusions. But there are other ships manned entirely by non-fusions. TOS cast just kept running into the former, and TNG and others into the latter. (This explanation is also consistent with Worf's comment in Tribble-ations.)

2) The ridged Klingons are members of the Imperial race; non-ridged are plebes. There is some interbreeding, leading to individuals with more or less pronounced ridges. Again assume stratified society (no big leap), and the rest follows similar to explanation 1.

0taku_REBORNED
06-02-2004, 08:33 AM
Yes, I'm sure that's what the writers were thinking, they didn't just mess up...

SoberTillNoon
06-02-2004, 06:15 PM
Well, that sure as hell hellps me out. I was confused on why in the new series the kilngons did not look like they did in TOS.

Jon Boy
06-02-2004, 06:26 PM
I love how people have "theories" to explain the change.




Geeks, every last one of you!

celia60
06-02-2004, 06:43 PM
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/700/worfdance.gif
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4552/picardheehaw.gif

Jon Boy
06-02-2004, 07:54 PM
*disturbed*

PatrickDarwinPoyfair
06-02-2004, 11:25 PM
Anyone have $1,000,000 I can borrow? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2397756436&indexURL=0#ebayphotohosting)

Jon Boy
06-03-2004, 06:30 PM
Sure, Pat. Let me just get out my checkbook.