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GreNME
03-02-2005, 02:24 PM
Something BannaOJ brought up in another thread caused me to begin looking into the subject of car magnets of the "Support Our Troops" type, and what I found bugged me so much I decided to put my reaction to it here:

Everyone has seen them: the ribbon-shaped yellow automobile magnets with "Support Our Troops" emblazoned on them. They are a sign of solidarity to some, a political statement for their personal opinions or ideals to others, and an extreme annoyance to others still. We can find them available for purchase in almost every store, from the local corner market to the nearest Wal-Mart superstore. They've become more than a craze, more than a fad—they are an expression of our thirty-year-old guilt from the treatment of soldiers coming home from Vietnam and a notice to the many families who have loved ones over there that many people appreciate the sacrifice in time, livelihood, and in some cases blood or life itself given by those soldiers serving in the armed forces currently.

But does having one of these magnets signify a true support of our armed forces? Is any real support going to our troops through the sale of these things? Are the people displaying the car magnets showing more than a superficial support? Has the meaning behind these convenient displays been trumped by a consumerism and commercialism that preys on disaster, pain, and suffering? I believe it has. But don't take my word for it: let's examine the brief history of these things and make our own decisions one way or the other.

The magnets' story begins in North Carolina in April of 2003, when Christian bookstore owner Dwain Gullion decided to whip up a thousand of them and distribute them from his store. The demand for the magnets grew as more people saw them, which led to more batches and them being distributed on a wider and wider basis. Mr. Gullion is even said to have made contributions to soldier aid charities from the proceeds, which is an admirable and heartwarming story of real support and activism in favor of the troops who represent us, the civilians of the United States, regardless of whether he stood behind the war or not. He has also since reported to have expressed a bit of frustration and amusement at the magnets having become symbols used for political partisanship on both sides of the fence. In its humble beginnings, the "Support Our Troops" craze seems to have genuinely be done with a true spirit of support for our troops serving in Iraq and elsewhere.

Enter Florida entrepreneur Robert Real and his company, Americas & Americas Inc. Having seen the intense growth of the cathartic outlet inherent to the car magnets, Mr. Real quickly applied for a patent on the phenomenon and added it to his company's already-long list of patriotic paraphernalia and began e-marketing on a website, flagsoncars.com. Real took the growing momentum behind these magnets and sold them in bulk to anyone who would buy them.

Mr. Real didn't enter into this out of nowhere, however. He and his company have been attempting to gain attention ever since the September 11th disaster in 2001, having sent the "9/11 commemorative flags" to both Virginia and New York—and likely others, but those are the only two his site brags of—in part with the intent on having their altered American flags (with a NY skyline showing the Twin Towers) become the "official flag commemorating September 11, 2001. With copies of the polite response letters from Senator Quayle (unprofessionally misspelled on flagsoncars.com, by the way) and former mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani displayed on their site under "donations," it's fairly obvious flagsoncars.com is making sure to show themselves as significant contributors (by name-dropping two politicians' names). They also have mention that they've given $10,000 to the United Way charity, displaying a picture of handing over the check to assure nay-sayers.

There is a common practice of large companies to give a certain amount of profits to charities, because up to certain amounts such donations are tax deductible. For those who aren't getting the implication I'm getting at, such practices offer the company a chance to avoid paying a larger amount of taxes, thus increasing their margin of profit the following year. Ironically, taxes paid by individuals, of which corporations pay taxes as, help in part to pay for the supplies, food, and living conditions of our troops deployed around the globe. Every company from Johnson & Johnson to Microsoft engages in such practices, since increasing profits is the aim of businesses. After all, it is the "American Way." However, considering that in the last year alone I have seen over 10,000 autos with the car magnets on them myself, it's fair to say that profits from a single city alone have been enough to foot the bill for Mr. Real's donation to the United Way, while the rest lines the coffers of his company, and thus further lining his own pockets. Ten thousand dollars seems like a lot to the average middle-class person sporting the car magnet on the back of the automobile they are still making payments on while working their butts off at 40-plus hours a week, but it is a drop in the proverbial bucket for a company that has managed to make an exorbitant profit on selling hundreds of thousands (or more) of these magnets to the whole country as the fad has silently grown to proportions rivaling the pet rock over the course of just under two years.

I am, of course, coloring the events with my opinion, but I am being very clear on the level of profit Mr. Real's company is pulling from this craze with only marginal contributions to charity, and so far none actually overtly supporting some 300,000 American soldiers serving in our military. I happen to be a very patriotic person, and seeing a company or private organization taking advantage of the great deal of nationalistic pride inherent in the American populace for what is almost straight profit with only token contributions to relief or support funds for the nation their paraphernalia claims to support makes me angry. It is more than slightly disingenuous of the producers of the merchandise itself, and is preying on the gullibility of the public (however accurately perceived) for its own ends.

One of the many gaudy car magnets out there says that "Freedom Isn't Free." This is true, but it also doesn't hold pending patent applications on fads they didn't create that contribute little or nothing to the groups their products demand of the reader to support. While I thought prior to investigating that the auto magnets were simply overly preachy, after finding out more about the American distributors of these things—because in case many of you didn't know, a lot of those ribbon magnets out there were made in China or Taiwan that didn't come from Americas & Americas, Inc.—I have come to the conclusion that supporting the increased growth of this phenomenon would not only be dishonest as an American, but it would be completely contrary to American patriotism to begin with.

If you want to keep the magnet on your car because it means something different to you personally, go right ahead and do so. However, I urge you to not convince yourself that the people making these things are doing anything to actually support our troops out there, a couple of whom are family to me. If you want to truly be confident in your support of our troops, send them care packages with comics and magazines, candy bars, thank-you notes, and home-baked cookies in them. Use groups like the Military, Veterans and Patriotic Service Organizations of America to find local or nationwide charities that are genuinely contributing to supporting our troops, especially after they come home. Instead of searching for a badge of honor to wear with pride, make that pride spur you into action that gives these men and women who have volunteered service to this nation the respect they deserve instead of the token nod given by a company who has been making a killing in profits on this for at least a year.

BannaOj
03-02-2005, 03:40 PM
*CHEEERS*

I figured as much, but I was too lazy to do the research. I think you should send that into the Dallas Paper.

It makes me nauseous.

AJ

katharina
03-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Have you seen the purple "Support Our Ribbons" ribbon? I briefly considered getting one of those.

dbrown
03-02-2005, 07:50 PM
I'm fascinated with the whole public performance aspect of this kind of behavior. The thing I assume is that bumper stickers and such are in the final analysis strategic acts of self presentation. People are striving to have others read them (not merely the sign) in particular ways.

Playing the self-presentation game is not unusual. We all do it everyday in many, much more subtle ways than magnetic ribbons. In part we do it for whatever strokes it makes us feel when others view us in ways we consider positive.

And in part we do it because it's a highly functional strategy for a social animal that has to coordinate its activities with those of others through mutual interpretation. Sometimes those efforts are authentic, sometimes not.

For example, it's pretty essential to get hospital staff to read you as someone in need of urgent care when you show up at the busy ER. Likewise, selling cars and getting elected usually involve trying to get other folks to read you as being honest and concerned for their well-being.

So, regardless of who sells the 'look-me patriot' magnets or for whatever reason, I focus on what the driver in front of me is trying to convince me about him- or herself. The magnet or bumper sticker is in the first instance about the poster, not about the subject (e.g. the troops) being made reference to.

If it is offensive, it's because it is such a cheap and manipulative way of ascribing moral superiority to yourself. You get to snag some potential symbolic feel-good-about-yourself status points by merely asserting something high sounding in a public way with words that are quite empty.

As with marketing, those who post such signs on themselves for others to witness are implying much without really committing anything. Just what does it mean to say you 'support' someone or something? Nothing at all really. And declaring that you 'support the troops' does nothing whatsoever for the troops.

The performance merely garners easy self-satisfaction related to the sense that you have taken some kind of moral highground for yourself and those you identify with. It takes self-righteousness to an even lower level. And in part it does so by playing on the implication that other 'sign-less' or otherwise silent people are less patriotic or moral.

In the commercial world, such displays are more obviously manipulative. Consider the strategy evident in the massive flag displays over car lots and pancake joints. You-buy-here-we-patriot-see-flag. In Canada, incidently, 'Perkins' flies a giant Canadian flag instead. Same ploy, different market.
:rolleyes:

Ela
03-02-2005, 11:19 PM
John, I was sure that purchase of the magnets themselves weren't actually supporting our troops, cause I read some of the information you dug up in a newspaper article some time ago - it may have been in the NY Times Magazine.

Good article. :)

mr_porteiro_head
03-03-2005, 01:39 AM
I have never been tempted to put a bumper sticker or magnet on my car.

dbrown
03-03-2005, 07:57 AM
I have never been tempted to put a bumper sticker or magnet on my car.
You just hate our freedom.
;)


I must confess, however, that I have a bright red and white Canadian flag slapped onto the black ass of my car. Interestingly, I'm never inclined to do so when I'm residing back in home in Canada. I'm sure I do it here in the States to irritate those with 'God Bless America' signs in traffic. Quite manipulative and sick really. I'm sorry. I'm bad beyond redemption. Decent folk like you shouldn't associate with me.

Icarus
03-03-2005, 08:03 AM
Oh, I was very tempted a few years ago to put a "Come back to Miami--We weren't shooting at YOU!" sticker on mine.

raventh1
03-03-2005, 08:36 AM
Support Terrorism: Invade Iraq!

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or how about:
Terrorist's don't show thier ID.
If you steal (insert movie-music), you're a terrorist!

Grounded: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05058/462446.stm


By the way, one of my brothers(1) ran for congress, and my other brother(2) was grounded (as were several other non-firstparty canidates that my brother(1) was running with...)

GreNME
03-03-2005, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by BannaOj@Mar 2 2005, 04:40 PM
*CHEEERS*

I figured as much, but I was too lazy to do the research. I think you should send that into the Dallas Paper.
The chances of a paper printing that are slim to none. Not only are most of the readers (here and all over the country) donning these magnets and don't like feeling duped, but I'll admit freely that my prose is a bit too adversarial and unpolished for a newspaper.

Oh, and Ela, I believe what you may have seen it in was the New Yorker magazine, because I recall a few mentions of such an article.

Ela
03-03-2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Icarus@Mar 3 2005, 09:03 AM
Oh, I was very tempted a few years ago to put a "Come back to Miami--We weren't shooting at YOU!" sticker on mine.
I like the one that says, "We don't care how you do it up north." :P

John, I haven't read the New Yorker in a really long time, so I'm sure it wasn't there. :)

I just checked, it was the New York Times Magazine, back in November, but the article is archived now and I don't feel like paying to view it. :)

Icarus
03-03-2005, 12:27 PM
Thanks for the link, raventh1. That was a very interesting article. I'll be sharing it with others.

beverly
03-03-2005, 12:31 PM
I side with exploitation.

mr_porteiro_head
03-03-2005, 12:37 PM
Personally, I'm against exploitation.

*feels exploited*

beverly
03-03-2005, 12:48 PM
:P

katharina
03-03-2005, 02:33 PM
David, for precisely that reason, my middle brother hung a confrederate flag in his room when we moved to Utah. Surrounded by Yankees, he felt a heart tug that he didn't know existed when we lived in Texas.

GreNME
03-03-2005, 02:52 PM
Does he realize that being from Texas and waving a Confederate flag is more than a little dumb?

By the way, anyone trying to justify that a confederate flag doesn't imply a support for racism is denying the fundemental aspects behind the Civil War itself and the reasons behind the creation of the Confederacy to begin with. Yes, I understand the whole "states' rights" thing, except people forget it was "states' rights to own slaves," not "states' rights" in general. The seventy years of Jim Crowe and Black Codes that followed is nothing to be proud of.

beverly
03-03-2005, 03:27 PM
I could understand him sporting a Texan flag....

After all, as native Texans will proudly tell you, Texas *was* once a nation.

katharina
03-03-2005, 03:30 PM
John, you are aware that Texas was in the Confederacy?

Yeah yeah, insert standard rant against the confederate flag here. Of course, his purpose - like David's - was to piss people off, so it worked well.

mr_porteiro_head
03-03-2005, 03:34 PM
People should get pissed off by that.

katharina
03-03-2005, 03:38 PM
So it worked. ;)

This would be where I point out that a symbol can mean many different things, and the primary one should not be the one made by outsiders, but it's not worth it. If someone concludes as a result that my brother is racist, then they're an idiot, so I'm not worried about their opinion.

GreNME
03-03-2005, 03:48 PM
No, I was not aware that Texas had fully affirmed itself as a state by the time of the secession. It appears after double-checking that I was wrong. Not that Texas doesn't have enough history behind it ourside of the Civil War dealing with slavery and white men fighting for it (like the Alamo).

This would be where I point out that a symbol can mean many different things, and the primary one should not be the one made by outsiders...
Well, gee, this has all kinds of implications with the whole Ten Commandments debate going on. Does it apply there, or only where you choose?

[edited to add] And I wasn't implying your brother is a racist, but what one displays to others goes a long way in crafting how others see that person.

katharina
03-03-2005, 04:10 PM
He was an angry teenager in Utah. He wore (wears) all black, listened to Metallica, and enjoyed keeping his neighbors guessing about him. Also, fond of Texas. The flag was perfect.

katharina
03-03-2005, 04:13 PM
The Mexican war was fought when Texas joined the union, in 1836. Part of the peace treaty that ended the Texan Revolution in 1826 was a promise that Texas would remain an independent nation and a buffer between Mexico and the USA. When Texas joined the Union (and the US planted troops along the Rio Grande), that violated the treaty and started the war. It is possible the Mexicans fired first, so the US could claim it was a defensive war. So, yes, Texas a state in 1861. It didn't secede with the first wave, but with the second, after the Rebels fired on Fort Sumter and the Union sent troops into Virginia.

mr_porteiro_head
03-03-2005, 04:16 PM
The six flags over Texas were the flags of the following nations:
France
Spain
Mexico
Texas
United States
Confederate States

GreNME
03-03-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by katharina@Mar 3 2005, 05:13 PM
The Mexican war was fought when Texas joined the union, in 1836. Part of the peace treaty that ended the Texan Revolution in 1826 was a promise that Texas would remain an independent nation and a buffer between Mexico and the USA. When Texas joined the Union (and the US planted troops along the Rio Grande), that violated the treaty and started the war. It is possible the Mexicans fired first, so the US could claim it was a defensive war. So, yes, Texas a state in 1861. It didn't secede with the first wave, but with the second, after the Rebels fired on Fort Sumter and the Union sent troops into Virginia.
Yes, yes, yes... Texas officially joined the Union in 1845 (I mistakenly thought 1895). Texas split from Mexican (by proxy for Spain) territory after many men from the States moved in and decided certain 'liberties' they thought they were entitled to were being hindered by Mexican government. The 'right' to own slaves happened to be one of them (and a large enough one to garner American sympathy). There were other issues between the citizens of Texas (who were officially Mexican citizens) and Mexico that led to the fighting that led to the establishment of Texas as a sovereign entity (and hero-myths like the Alamo flourishing), but my timeline of events was a little off by a few decades, hence my mistake.

I didn't come here (Dallas) totally clueless of the state's history. ;)

beverly
03-03-2005, 04:27 PM
I just thought I would mention here that I moved so much growing up that I missed having to take a State History class. Three times.

I also never had to dissect anything. That kinda disappointed me. :(

katharina
03-03-2005, 04:30 PM
*grin*

I always get the Texas Mexico-Texas-USA timeline mixed up with the Joseph Smith first vision-organization of the church-assasination timeline. They take place at about the same time, and there are about ten years between each event in both cases, and I learned them at the same age. So, yes - add ten years to both of the dates in my summary. 1846 was a big year.

GreNME
03-03-2005, 07:50 PM
I just need to double-check my notes more often and commit them to long-term memory a little better. I'm considering taking the books I have, working detailed notes out for each, and saving them in a searchable database on my home server machine (yes, I have a home server... two </geek>) for reference when working on stuff or doing some cursory study of new books for cross-reference. Sort of a home-library-based Wikipedia.

I must really be pushing the boundaries of geekdom. :rolleyes:

dbrown
03-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Another take on some bumper statements is that the poster is exhorting the reader to do something.

For example, I guess 'God Bless America' is a demand that one's deity bestow love or something on the US, possibly with the sub-text that such 'blessing' not be extended to other peoples.

Then there are the magnets and stickers directing us to 'Support the Troops'. But actually what does it mean to support the troops? Is it just to feel you support the troops, or to having meaning does it need to be realized in action?

And if action, then what kind of acts are indicative of supporting the troops (beyond just parading such statements around on one's vehicle)? How would I know a 'troop supporter' if I met one when his or her car wasn't in view?

Similarly, how would I know a 'troop non-supporter' if I ran into one in a dark alley? There must be a bunch of the latter ilk running around since so many people seem intent on differentiating themselves from them.

In the end, though, I wonder if 'Support the Troops' is really code for 'Don't Make Fun of the President' or 'Don't Speak Against the War'?

Kayla
03-04-2005, 04:23 AM
Okay. Here is a place where you can actually support the troops. You can buy bumper stickers, bumper magnets, yellow ribbon hearts, etc. The yellow ribbon hearts are actually donations to anysoldier.com, but the bumper stickers are more of an advertisement for www.anysoldier.com

That said, you should check out www.anysoldier.com They have a list of about 2,000 soldiers for whom they have a name and an address. That soldier has signed up and given his/her general location, number of males/females in they are with, what they do, and what they need.

It's shocking to me how many of them want shampoo, toothpaste, deodorant, foot powder, candy, sunglasses, Skin So Soft, razors, maxi pads, tampons, baby wipes, air fresheners, phone cards, stationary, envelopes and just plain old letters.

My husband has often told me how much mail was coveted when he was stationed in Germany. Or even when he was in basic training here in the States. I found several soldiers who worked in hospitals that wanted drawings from kids to hang on the walls and letters to give to injured soldiers. There were many Sgts, Chaplains, etc. who were asking for letters for soldiers in their companies that rarely, if ever received letters, especially single soldiers.

Some of them have asked for board games, DVDs, used books, etc. My first reaction was to think of Klinger/scam artists, but the more I've thought about it, the more I think this is probably something they really do need. I think it's been mentioned here how high the figures for PTSD are, the concern about how high the PTSD figures are going to be and such. These poor guys are out there every day not knowing if they are going to die that day or not. I can see how, when they aren't working, they need something to take their mind off what they will be doing the next day, or what they just saw that day.

So, anyway, if you want to get involved in actually supporting the troops, you can donate money to www.anysoldier.com, you can buy bumpers stickers to spread the word, you can e-mail everyone you know and tell them about anysoldier.com, you can go to your school and see if they would let the kids draw pictures or write letters of support (make sure the letters are vetted so there aren't any asses like those ones that sent soldiers letters that, while supportive of the troops, negative about the war. For more information on that debacle, see the following foxnews website. Ugh. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148364,00.html What the hell is wrong with people?)

Anyway, I'll probably post this as a separate topic, but I thought I'd put it here because it relates to the bumper sticker support theme.

Remember, that's www.anysoldier.com

katharina
03-04-2005, 01:33 PM
For the original thread subject, you could always cut to the chase and post this: http://www.cafepress.com/ibs1.13798552

GreNME
03-09-2007, 12:10 PM
Just an update to the original: yellow ribbons dwindling with waning war support (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/4793da48-c8f7-11db-9f7b-000b5df10621,_i_rssPage=6700d4e4-6714-11da-a650-0000779e2340.html).

I find this interesting that it has only taken a few years for such a noticable (though small) change in public behavior. It also worries me, but for different reasons.