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Kama
12-22-2003, 04:55 PM
Once again, I'm turning this into a venting forum. Sorry, John :(

One thing is the watch. I wanted a watch for Christmas, and my mom and I were planning to go buy it tomorrow. But today, she says she won't be able to go. So maybe, I could go look for it by myself and tell them which one I won't so they can go get it later. Theoretically, no big deal. But I get upset. I don't want to go alone, I want to go with her. A fight starts. She suggests they give me money for Christmas, and I (we) buy the watch later. Why don't you understand? It's not about the watch. It's not about the money. It's about going to buy it together. It's not that I don't have time to go by myself. I don't want to. Nasty quarrel over nothing.

:(

Another thing is the deal with my grandparents. My grandfather told bad things to my mom some years ago, and never apologised, and somehow, he is expecting apology. He doesn't visit us at all. He doesn't talk to my mom. And my grandmother expects me to influence my mom to... well, I don't know what... after all, she's the one who's invited them over many times, and they never came. And it's not like anyone really wants them to. When my brother and I visit them every week for dinner, we don't hear much good. He hears he's stupid, or doesn't care enough, or dresses inappropriately. I hear I should talk to my mother about the situation... well guess what? I do. I tell her how every time we go there, my grandfather is so drunk he can barely talk. I'm sick.

I don't know why I don't talk to my father about it. They're his parents. But I can't talk to my father. I don't know. I just can't. Not really talk. Although I know he cares and loves me and my brother, and we enjoy each other's company. Talking about serious stuff is out. Maybe I don't want to hear I'm sick, again. So I tell my mom, and she tells my dad, and he denies it. No, his father is not drunk. As if. So he says, he'll tell us not to go there anymore. Fine with me. But don't tell us that. Tell it to your parents. He won't. But how can I blame him, if I'm the same way? He won't talk to his parents about this, but I won't talk to him. What's the difference?

Kama is sad tonight.

Kama apologises to all who had to read this sad thread.

Kama would not create it, but Kama doesn't really have anyone to talk to right now, and she needs to know someone out there listens.

Kama loves everyone at grenme and hopes they will understand.

Kama also loves her little brother who hugged her and made her smile after the fight with mom.

Kama
12-22-2003, 05:33 PM
What's worse is that I'm supposedly an adult, and yet I act like a litle kid. I know it, and yet keep acting like this.

<-- feels guilty

katharina
12-22-2003, 06:40 PM
*hugs Kama*

Ah girl, that bites. That's wild that you're expected to play peacemaker. It's a bit of a compliment, but still no fun.

I hear you about the present. My dad was going to send me a check, and I called I said I'd rather have nothing than have him write me a check to dischard his obligations. I wanted a nice box for my mother's jewelry, and I wasn't real picky about it, but he had, had to spend time shopping for it, and he had to do it. This is the fourth or so Christmas in a row we've had this conversation, and I think it actually went through. I've had lots of Christmases where he just gave me money, though.

*sends good vibes to Poland*

Ryuko
12-23-2003, 02:28 AM
I just wanna say that I'm listening, even though I don't really have any useful advice, except that if you really want to go shopping with your mom you can tell her you'll wait until after the holiday...

Noemon
12-23-2003, 08:15 AM
I'm listening too Kama. I don't have any great advice, really, but I'm listening. Historically, have you often found yourself in the peace makerroll, with either family or friends?

::sits companionably with Kama::

Kama
12-23-2003, 11:17 AM
Thanks guys, I needed this. Really.

(((kat))) I still feel kind of silly about the present thing, I overreacted and I don't like it. But then again, my mom said she could go shopping with me today, and we talked on the way, and she said she understood it's no fun going to buy (or even choose) my christmas present on my own.

Noemon, I don't know. I tend to mitigate the fights between my mom and dad (not all of them, I'd have to do it every day). It just frustrates me they're both so unwilling to listen to the other side. But it's different with my grandparents. I don't want to get involved, but my grandmother wants me to, and she says I'm secretive, because i never talk openly with her. I'd be quite content to just not visit them, but it simply doesn't seem right. *sigh*

Anna
12-28-2003, 06:06 AM
(((((Kama)))))

thrtribe_ebonyjay
01-02-2004, 05:06 PM
I love christmas

*sticks up her nose*

m. bowles
01-04-2004, 09:54 AM
Hey ebony, umm...yeah , the is spelled T-H-E not T-H-R, just in case you missed it. :P

Kama
04-06-2004, 03:48 PM
*digs up whining thread*

*whines*

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Way to go, mom.

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Stupid Leto.

I want to use angry smilies. Many angry smilies. Many. Angry. smilies.

Kama
04-06-2004, 03:50 PM
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PatrickDarwinPoyfair
04-06-2004, 05:46 PM
:)

OpheliaViolenta
04-06-2004, 06:07 PM
(((((Kama)))))

Novak@Lazy
04-07-2004, 11:38 AM
Heya Kama....

Feel better. Cause if you don't, it's going to take forever to load this page with all those emoticons, and I just can't handle that. Ignore what she said to you. You're not. Unless happy, awesome, cool, and cute all constitute for moody, you have no reason to bother listening.

Now... am I forgiven for being accused for talking about you behind your back or are you going to continue to tease me? ;)

Kama
04-07-2004, 12:47 PM
You're forgiven.

August is still far away, though... You'd better watch out. :P

Novak@Lazy
04-07-2004, 01:00 PM
I'll be sure to arm myself with a random assortment of bribes.

katharina
04-07-2004, 01:33 PM
((Kama))

Anna
04-07-2004, 03:53 PM
(((((Kama)))))

Kama
04-08-2004, 04:17 PM
3 days in a row. this is getting fucking unbearable.

No money to move out

*bangs head on wall*

Anna
04-09-2004, 03:11 AM
(((((Kama)))))
I don't know what to say. :(

Kama
04-09-2004, 06:20 AM
*shrug*

The arguments between my parents have gotten really bad lately. They work together, and since there are always problems, and the money is always short, my mom keeps blaming my dad that he isn't trying more. It's hard to be objective in this case, but from what I can see, she's right. Of course the work issues are transferred to the household issues and they are both always so angry. I can't help but take my mom's side, because whenever she tries to be nice, my dad snaps back at her. But that makes her even angrier, and she takes it out on me.

I understand how hard it is for her, but can't she understand this is not my fault?

Starla*
04-10-2004, 12:03 AM
((((((Kama))))))))))

I'm sorry, honey. :(

I know exactly how you feel.

GreNME
04-10-2004, 10:02 AM
You two should move in together as roomates.

Oh, wait, that would give one of you a shitty commute...

Kama
04-10-2004, 10:40 AM
I can move, if she'll promise to do the dishes.

Starla* wasting time
04-19-2004, 08:08 PM
I don't mind dishes---I've been doing them a long time.

And as for the shitty commute, John, I already have one as it is.

Kama
04-20-2004, 04:55 PM
All settled, then.